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»» Topic # 7:
Self Support – What is it and are we
living up to our responsibilities?
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Self-support is a cherished
principle of Alcoholics Anonymous. Without it, we would have
collapsed long ago, either through a lack of sufficient
contributions from A.A. members or through accepting
financial support from sources outside A.A. There’s an old
adage that “He who pays the fiddler, calls the tune”. In
other words, if some source of funds greatly outweighs all
other sources, the larger source of funds might “call the
tune” by simply saying, “Do it my way, or I am withholding
my financial support”. Has that source of funds provided by
the markup on A.A. literature begun to “pay the fiddler”? Do
we, as a Fellowship, rely too much on this source of funds?
What would happen if this source of funds would cease to
exist, if A.A. attempted to match group services with group
contributions?
A.A. needs money to pay for its services, that is a given.
The topic asks if the groups should pay for all the services
the General Service provides the groups, or should we
continue to make up the difference with mark-up on A.A.
literature? In an ideal world, group contributions to GSO
would pay for all group services and allow GSO to maintain a
prudent reserve in order to maintain those services in those
times when the groups might temporarily fail to fully
financially support GSO’s services to the groups. We don’t
live in an ideal world, so it is prudent for A.A. to always
remember Bill W’s words from page S2 of the A.A. Service
Manual, “Concerning any given service, we therefore ask one
question, ‘Is this service really needed?’ If it is, then
maintain it we must, or fail in our mission to those who
need and seek A.A.”. Bill goes on to say, “The most vital,
yet least understood, group of services, that A.A. has are
those that enable us to function as a whole, namely: the
General Service Office, A.A. World Services, Inc., The A.A.
Grapevine Inc., and our board of trustees, known legally as
the General Service Board of Alcoholics Anonymous. Our
worldwide unity and much of our growth since early times are
directly traceable to this cluster of life-giving
activities.” I think the first order of business then has to
be to find out exactly what those life-giving activities
are. What services does GSO provide to the groups? That is
the job of those who serve in General Service to find out
and inform the groups. Without this information, we cannot
have a truly informed group conscience, we will be making a
decision out of ignorance. It might be helpful if more
detailed information was provided on these services. At the
very least, maybe the background material could cite a
source where the A.A. member could go to find out what these
services are. Until the readers know this information, they
can only offer general opinions like, “Yeah, it sounds like
a good idea that the groups should pay for all the costs of
services provided to the groups by GSO”. Or, “No, it would
not be a good idea for GSO to rely solely on group
contributions to pay for group services, too many services
would have to be cut”.
I think the importance of this discussion is to have an open
and informed discussion, but we need to know the types and
costs of services provided by GSO in order to add to the
discussion. Hopefully this information might be added to the
background information.
(Message ID
7.003) March 15, 2008
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The present method of financial
support makes the best sense to me. The flow of funds
received from the fellowship, plus the profits from the sale
of literature, coupled with the prudent reserve acting as a
buffer to achieve an annual balanced budget is a smart way
to manage the finances of a not-for-profit organization.
When trends reflect revenue levels that exceed operational
needs, the price of literatures can be lowered to return the
prudent reserve to its standard level. Conversely, if the
level of fellowship contributions is lowered and over time
creates a strain on the prudent reserve, the sale price of
literature can raised to return the prudent reserve to its
standard level.
In my opinion, to think the fellowship could & would be
self-supporting through contributions only, is wishful
thinking. Literature would continue to bear a price tag
(Cost to produce only). The fellowship needs to be mindful
that an estimate of about 55% of the registered groups in
the fellowship are currently making contributions. 45% do
not contribute. Here's a couple questions:
1. Will the 45% of the fellowship step up and start to make
contributions?
2. If the answer to #1 is no, will the 55% reach down lower
and double their contribution amount?
3. If the answer to #1 is no; #2 fails to meet their support
obligation; and the prudent reserve is exhausted by filling
the void between contributions and the operational budget,
how will the fellowship continue to pay its bills?
In my opinion, the issue of total self support through
contributions would have negative financial impact to A.A.
Risk management systems and procedures would need to be
created and mandate an ongoing & constant paramount matter
for the fellowship's financial committee's to keep abreast
of.
My vote is NO! Leave it alone.
(Message ID
7.002) March 15, 2008
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It's pretty hard to run a business or organization with the
hope that donations will keep it afloat. When the donations
dry up or are less than needed then fundraising starts. So
with that in mind are we going to start running fundraisers
to maintain GSO? Oh, wait a minute, the AA members will
donate more if they think that they have to? Will book sales
slow and go into the red since there is only so much money
to go around and the money is all going to donations to GSO?
Send out a survey to all GSR’s to take to their home group
and send the survey to the Central Office’s so they can give
it to their reps and then we can get a good idea of what
people think. Of course if you don’t have a GSR or
Intergroup rep you may never know about this. This is a lot
to think about both pro and con. I don’t think it is a good
idea but that's just my idea.
(Message ID
7.001) March 15, 2008 ====
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